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15 hours ago
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Granite Mountain Peak?

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Topic: Granite Mountain Peak?
Here are photos from the Cool Cyn route http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/forum/topic135-cool-canyon--rainbow-canyon.aspx
I didn't quite make to the top that day but you get the idea.
1 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Peak?

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Yes it is it is the mine shaft on the Topo in section 21. The old dirt road takes you to the mine. I am sure Oriflamme road is very muddy right now. I would wait until it dries out. It was a great trip
1 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Peak?

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rockhopper wrote:
It took two attempts to summit Granite mtn. The first time we got slammed by a snow storm. This was back in the 90's. A week later we went back to clear sunny skies. Went up from the S2/East side following the dry creek trail. Neat grinding holes along the creek so look for them. Then up the ridge and scramble to the top.
More recently from Rodriguez canyon. I parked near the turmoline mine near the PCT and just scrambled up the west side.

Scooter. Is that the gold mine the one with a shaft on the south side of the mountain slope? That oriflamme canyon road from the bottom was "interesting" to get to the saddle. I think I'll only drive it once.
edited by rockhopper on 2/16/2019
1 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Peak?

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It took two attempts to summit Granite mtn. The first time we got slammed by a snow storm. This was back in the 90's. A week later we went back to clear sunny skies. Went up from the S2/East side following the dry creek trail. Neat grinding holes along the creek so look for them. Then up the ridge and scramble to the top.
More recently from Rodriguez canyon. I parked near the turmoline mine near the PCT and just scrambled up the west side.

Scooter. Is that the gold mine the one with a shaft on the south side of the mountain slope? That oriflamme canyon road from the bottom was "interesting" to get to the saddle. I think I'll only drive it once.
edited by rockhopper on 2/16/2019
1 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph Trail

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Nice trip Rocko1. Best time of year to climb it. Between the storms. Glad you both had a good hike. Fantastic views all around.
Tommy: I have an old pic of that wooden sign somewhere. I'll try to find it.
1 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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Yeah, that road is very narrow. It looked like it was gated and signed for 2 wheel vehicles only a year or two ago. This was the road into Redondo Flat from the road going to Sacatone.
1 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Peak?

Scooter
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Hiked Granite a few months ago. Took the route from the old Redmond gold mine on the Southwest side of the mountain. Parked on Rodriquez truck trail 1/4 mile north of Oriflame Road. Look for a rock carin on the right side of the road. You follow the road up to the mine. Gained the ridge just East of the mine. The ridge where the last A in Anza is on the Topo The fire did clear out all the brush. Easy walk up to the peak. Great hike with a bonus gold mine thrown in😀
1 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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Topic: Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?
Buford wrote:

Sure is green in that pic. I seem to remember that road was closed to cars and gated in the last couple years. I might be mistaken.
I saw no signs and no gates but the "road" I followed in was more of a motorcycle track which my little truck navigated easily. I followed the road (seen in the photo) out and saw no closed gates either. Looks like the photo was from March 2015.
2 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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Topic: Winter 2019 Flowers
Coyote Canyon rain gauge got >2.5” yesterday.

No surprise the road is closed due to flooding.
edited by Buford on 2/15/2019
2 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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dsefcik wrote:


Sure is green in that pic. I seem to remember that road was closed to cars and gated in the last couple years. I might be mistaken.
2 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Peak?

Buford
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Topic: Granite Mountain Peak?
Not recently, but I have done the route from Cool Canyon. It is a step up in difficulty from Whale. Brush was no issue, I did it a year or so after the fire.
2 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Peak?

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Topic: Granite Mountain Peak?
I did it back in September 2017 and it was fine from the Cool Canyon route. The brush isn't a challenge there, it is the terrain itself. Good workout.
edited by ziphius on 2/15/2019
2 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Peak?

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Topic: Granite Mountain Peak?
Has anyone done Granite Peak recently? Looking at doing this via Cool Canyon. Seems the 2013 fire cleared up some of the brush but I wasn't sure how thick it's grown back since.
2 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph Trail

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Buford wrote:
Looks fun. Was it the right amount of scrambling?

Many programs don’t calculate gain/loss well. Fit bits and similar have issues. Hiking during a storm when the pressure is changing doesn’t help.



It was fun. Yes you were right. Not anything at all difficult but plenty of stuff you are stepping up-12-36" steps with a few 40"+ you have to throw up the hiking stick and pull pull yourself up in a kind of upward portion of a dip style move. It should burns the quads! When we hit the regular trail it was like heaven.

tommy750 wrote:
Nice trip. Looks like the metal sign is holding up better than the old wood one. You ever try the Jerry Schad Whale Peak loop from Blair? Also kinda like starting in Pinyon Wash: https://caltopo.com/m/HTBN


I have not done Schads route-that looks like a beast. Having done both Pinyon and pictograph directions I prefer the pictograph. The canyon is nice full of a variety of sites. It's harder but is more scenic in my opinion.
edited by Rocko1 on 2/15/2019


tekewin wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
dsefcik wrote:

It was a good hike. It appears Gaia GPS is not recording the elevation gain correctly-when I import the KML/GPX data into Google Earth it's showing a 2,525ft gain. Kind of a bummer as I really like the app but I am now seeing 10-20% discrepancies in gain/loss numbers.


Nice trip on Whale. I love that terrain, but I've only done it the easy way from the other side.

Getting accurate gain/loss is not easy. After many different approaches, I am now using GPS visualizer with some fine tuned options.

The complexities are explained here.

So, I use their Profile page, and these options:
1. Add DEM elevation data: best available source
2. Calculate elevation gain: Yes
3. Elev. gain threshold: 5m
4. Trackpoint distance threshold: 5m

Give that a try and see if you like the results better. It eliminates a lot of errors but nothing is perfect.


Thanks for the info. Here is what it came up with.

edited by Rocko1 on 2/15/2019
3 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph Trail

tekewin
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Rocko1 wrote:
dsefcik wrote:

It was a good hike. It appears Gaia GPS is not recording the elevation gain correctly-when I import the KML/GPX data into Google Earth it's showing a 2,525ft gain. Kind of a bummer as I really like the app but I am now seeing 10-20% discrepancies in gain/loss numbers.


Nice trip on Whale. I love that terrain, but I've only done it the easy way from the other side.

Getting accurate gain/loss is not easy. After many different approaches, I am now using GPS visualizer with some fine tuned options.

The complexities are explained here.

So, I use their Profile page, and these options:
1. Add DEM elevation data: best available source
2. Calculate elevation gain: Yes
3. Elev. gain threshold: 5m
4. Trackpoint distance threshold: 5m

Give that a try and see if you like the results better. It eliminates a lot of errors but nothing is perfect.
3 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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Topic: Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?
3 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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Topic: Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?
I was able to drive my '81 Toyota SR5 down the skinny "road" to get there....that was a couple years ago.
3 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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Thanks Darren and Tom.
Is the area of Redondo flat drive able? I see trails but is it legal to drive to that area?
Dad'd not going to wan tto walk to much but a bit is ok I would imagine.
3 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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Topic: Winter 2019 Flowers
@surfponto
Coyote Canyon was not great last weekend. Some little flowers. Sand Verbena and Brown Eyed Primrose were out in force. Sunflowers were starting but not blooming in numbers.

Some of lookers starting to stop in the middle of the roads.
3 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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Topic: Winter 2019 Flowers
I heard there may be some blooms in the Coyote Canyon area
Going to head out Saturday for the night and explore the Canyon Sin Nombre area to see what we can find.
I found this old picture from the general area I want to check out from 15 years ago when there was another Super Bloom

Wildflower Trip Report

Buford wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
I believe there was a NY Time article last year that help fuel the fire.

Where are the majority of the blooms happening? I was just at Blair this weekend and while everything is green I didn't see any flowers.


Usual popular areas of blooms are around Henderson Canyon Road and the alluvial fans that drain the Ysidro’s. Other areas can be just as good with less people.

Looked promising a couple days ago, but still not full speed yet.

There is a disheartening amount of Sahara Mustard around, including remote spots. Good to see it is being weeded out in some areas.

edited by surfponto on 2/14/2019
4 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph Trail

tommy750
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Nice trip. Looks like the metal sign is holding up better than the old wood one. You ever try the Jerry Schad Whale Peak loop from Blair? Also kinda like starting in Pinyon Wash: https://caltopo.com/m/HTBN
4 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph Trail

Buford
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Looks fun. Was it the right amount of scrambling?

Many programs don’t calculate gain/loss well. Fit bits and similar have issues. Hiking during a storm when the pressure is changing doesn’t help.
4 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

Buford
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Topic: Winter 2019 Flowers
Rocko1 wrote:
I believe there was a NY Time article last year that help fuel the fire.

Where are the majority of the blooms happening? I was just at Blair this weekend and while everything is green I didn't see any flowers.


Usual popular areas of blooms are around Henderson Canyon Road and the alluvial fans that drain the Ysidro’s. Other areas can be just as good with less people.

Looked promising a couple days ago, but still not full speed yet.

There is a disheartening amount of Sahara Mustard around, including remote spots. Good to see it is being weeded out in some areas.
4 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph Trail

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dsefcik wrote:
Nice TR, looks like a good trip.

The "oranges" are galls usually made by gall wasps, they are basically infestations.

Ah, I thought it was strange. This tree had a few on the ground under it too.

It was a good hike. It appears Gaia GPS is not recording the elevation gain correctly-when I import the KML/GPX data into Google Earth it's showing a 2,525ft gain. Kind of a bummer as I really like the app but I am now seeing 10-20% discrepancies in gain/loss numbers.
4 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Canyon Peak

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Topic: Bighorn Canyon Peak
tekewin wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
I am curious where the tanks you saw first are being filled from? A pipe running all the way to blue seems like it would be very difficult to install.


It looks like there is an underground tank behind and above the guzzler tanks. Here is a better perspective:

https://i.imgur.com/K02v70m.jpg

I am guessing it catches run off from the slope directly above it. There was also a wooden post there for a trailcam, but no camera was set up. This one probably doesn't get as much animal traffic as the one at Blue Spring. You are right about the distance, though, Blue is about 3 miles away.

Interesting. Thanks for the picture.
4 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph Trail

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Topic: Whale Peak Via Pictograph Trail
Nice TR, looks like a good trip.

The "oranges" are galls usually made by gall wasps, they are basically infestations.
5 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Canyon Peak

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Topic: Bighorn Canyon Peak
Rocko1 wrote:
I am curious where the tanks you saw first are being filled from? A pipe running all the way to blue seems like it would be very difficult to install.


It looks like there is an underground tank behind and above the guzzler tanks. Here is a better perspective:

https://i.imgur.com/K02v70m.jpg

I am guessing it catches run off from the slope directly above it. There was also a wooden post there for a trailcam, but no camera was set up. This one probably doesn't get as much animal traffic as the one at Blue Spring. You are right about the distance, though, Blue is about 3 miles away.
5 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph Trail

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Took the wife up to Whale Peak via the Pictograph trail this Saturday. I have done the regular route from Pinyon Mtn Rd a few times and wanted to try this approach. Got to the pictograph trail head about 8:30am on Saturday. Was about 44f and slightly breezy. Took off towards the pictograph rock-1 mile from the trail head.

Pictograph


We headed north from the pictograph rock and searched for the canyon that would take us up to the main trail to Whale.

Canyon ahead.


The canyon section-1.5 miles is a mix of boulders and small sandy sections.


A more rare flat area.


A nice cave we had to go through. This was about halfway up the canyon. It's bigger than it appears.


Looking back down the canyon we were climbing.


It connects to the main trail about 3 miles in. There are plenty of nice backpacking(flat) spots up here. This is one example:


Some really nice scenery up here. My favorite part of AB so far.


View from the saddle just below the peak.


Was cold and windy at the top. 45f with 25+mph gusts.


A quick cup of coffee and it was back on the trail.

Saw these bones on the way back. Small coyote?



Also saw this tree that looked like it had oranges on it-not sure what this was. Any ideas?


Some nice flora up here and in the canyon.





Desert Apricot


We made it down the canyon much faster-about 55 minutes and bypassed the cave by going up on the south side of the canyon about 100'. There were some rock cairns but you could have just picked your path. We dropped back down as it wasn't much faster going with the loose rock.

Made it back to the car just before the rain started. Was a good day. Not as exciting as the Bighorn Canyon trip but a great workout hike.





Bonus picture. At the top of Banner Grade we saw a large group of turkeys-13. I have not seen this many at one time.

edited by Rocko1 on 2/12/2019
5 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Canyon Peak

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Topic: Bighorn Canyon Peak
tekewin wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Very nice report! I did not know there were so many guzzlers in such a close proximity. Were either of the guzzlers full and dumping bleed water out?



There was water in the first guzzler on the ridge but none of the tanks were overflowing.

At Blue Spring, a stream of water was pouring steadily out of the top of one tank.

I wonder where the rest are hiding.

I am curious where the tanks you saw first are being filled from? A pipe running all the way to blue seems like it would be very difficult to install.
5 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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Topic: Winter 2019 Flowers
I believe there was a NY Time article last year that help fuel the fire.

Where are the majority of the blooms happening? I was just at Blair this weekend and while everything is green I didn't see any flowers.
6 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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Topic: Winter 2019 Flowers
It was a train wreck of epic proportions for Flowergeddon. I had planned on going that day with some friends a couple months ahead of time because there are always some flowers mid March. As the day approached, we knew it would be crowded, but what we saw as a whole other level. Dudley’s had a big line before opening. Before 9:00 am Montezuma had cars parked from before the Hellhole parking lot all the way to Christmas circle on the roadside. The Hellhole lot was jammed. The flower fields were a mess. There were less people in the Badlands and still a good flower show.

We were eating lunch in the badlands and someone pulled up all in a panic asking where to see flowers. Uh, everywhere, look up.

On the way home, S2 was completely stopped and backed up all the way from Montezuma grade to the stop sign at the 79.

If it is anything like last year, stay away from Borrego Springs and Henderson Canyon Road. Everything else wasn’t too bad. Heading home via S2 to I8 would be smarter.

I went back a couple weeks later to a different area of the park and the cacti blooms were spectacular and no one was around.

There had been some good blooms in prior years with no where near the mess as 2017. I am afraid what happened in Flowergeddon might be the new normal for a good bloom. There are still plenty of quiet places in Borrego, even with the crowds. Most are car tourists who never walk more than a few hundred yards from their car.
6 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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Topic: Winter 2019 Flowers
There were some crazy poppy blooms off the 15 freeway up by Lake Elsinore that year
http://www.anzaborrego.net/2017/03/19/anza-borrego-super-bloom-alternatives/

dsefcik wrote:
Buford wrote:
Incoming:
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/communities/north-county/sd-no-flowergeddon-prevention-borrego-20190128-story.html
For some I reason I can't remember now, I missed that whole Flowergeddon mess, instead I remember enjoying the blooms closer to home. There were several local AB events that were postponed or even cancelled due to that Flowergeddon mess.

edited by surfponto on 2/11/2019
6 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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Topic: Winter 2019 Flowers
Seems ridiculous for people to drive down in Los Angeles traffic and sit in more traffic out in Borrego Springs along with
2 hour lunch lines in town.

Guess those Facebook and Instagram selfies are worth it LOL
wink


Buford wrote:
Incoming:
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/communities/north-county/sd-no-flowergeddon-prevention-borrego-20190128-story.html

edited by surfponto on 2/11/2019
6 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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Topic: Winter 2019 Flowers
Buford wrote:
Incoming:
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/communities/north-county/sd-no-flowergeddon-prevention-borrego-20190128-story.html
For some I reason I can't remember now, I missed that whole Flowergeddon mess, instead I remember enjoying the blooms closer to home. There were several local AB events that were postponed or even cancelled due to that Flowergeddon mess.
7 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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Topic: Winter 2019 Flowers
Incoming:
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/communities/north-county/sd-no-flowergeddon-prevention-borrego-20190128-story.html
11 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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Here's the places you can see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain Valley:

Goat from McCain by tomteske, on Flickr

Possibly could head to Redondo Flat or that little patch of white just to the SE of the Carrizo Overlook. The trestle is just too low to be seen from most of McCain Valley.
11 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Canyon Peak

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Topic: Bighorn Canyon Peak
Rocko1 wrote:
Very nice report! I did not know there were so many guzzlers in such a close proximity. Were either of the guzzlers full and dumping bleed water out?



There was water in the first guzzler on the ridge but none of the tanks were overflowing.

At Blue Spring, a stream of water was pouring steadily out of the top of one tank.

I wonder where the rest are hiding.
12 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph?

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Topic: Whale Peak Via Pictograph?
Rocko1 wrote:
What app/device are you using to create the graph of speed and distance traveled?
That was just Google Earth
12 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Canyon Peak

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Topic: Bighorn Canyon Peak
Very nice report! I did not know there were so many guzzlers in such a close proximity. Were either of the guzzlers full and dumping bleed water out?
12 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph?

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dsefcik wrote:
Here is an alternative route if you are feeling adventurous....

http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/forum/topic155-whale-peak--inner-pasture--goat-cyn-trestle.aspx



Now that looks like fun! Funny how it seems to be nearly the same mileage as the route I was planning through Smugglers Canyon-10 miles+/-.

What app/device are you using to create the graph of speed and distance traveled?
12 days ago
Topic:
The "Original" LA Rams

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smile LOL

dsefcik wrote:
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Never more evident than after yesterday's performance against the Patriots wink

What was the news saying...Patriot's were gonna have a parade and the Rams were gonna pay for it..??
12 days ago
Topic:
The "Original" LA Rams

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surfponto wrote:
Never more evident than after yesterday's performance against the Patriots wink

What was the news saying...Patriot's were gonna have a parade and the Rams were gonna pay for it..??
12 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph?

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Topic: Whale Peak Via Pictograph?
Here is an alternative route if you are feeling adventurous....

http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/forum/topic155-whale-peak--inner-pasture--goat-cyn-trestle.aspx
12 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Canyon Peak

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tekewin wrote:
I was thinking about how those guzzlers were installed. I am guessing they used helicopters to get those tanks into such remote areas. Totally worth it to help out the bighorn population.
Pretty sure that is how they did it also....either that or tons of Boy Scouts. The guzzlers at Pinyon have Boy Scout plaques on them IIRC.
13 days ago
Topic:
The "Original" LA Rams

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Never more evident than after yesterday's performance against the Patriots wink

Buford wrote:
Good to see the better rams get some attention.
13 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph?

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Buford wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
I don't recall any boulder scrambling, just route finding. At some point once you ascend the route from Pictograph you run into the normal pinyon mtn rd trail and you can just follow that. I suppose there could be some slight boulder scrambling, I just don't remember anything significant. Someone else on the forum may have more recent memories so please chime in.



https://caltopo.com/m/7TVE Here it the proposed route. I had thought here was some scrambling going up this canyon. I could have been mistaken.
edited by Rocko1 on 2/3/2019


The link is the route I’ve done each time. There is probably some scrambling, it just wasn’t enough to be notable or memorable for me. That is why your mileage may vary. Sometimes there is a ducked route out of the canyon to meetup with the use trail, sometimes you travel high enough up Smugglers Canyon until you hit the other use trail.

I agree with Rockhopper.



Thanks. I will check it out.
13 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Canyon Peak

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dsefcik wrote:
Oh yeah...there are two radiosonde balloons that get launched every day from Kearny Mesa I was told by the NOAA folks.



I am in south OC so will mail it. It was in good shape. Two a day!? There must be a lot of them lying in gullys and on seldom visited slopes. Interesting.

I was thinking about how those guzzlers were installed. I am guessing they used helicopters to get those tanks into such remote areas. Totally worth it to help out the bighorn population.
13 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Canyon Peak

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Oh yeah...there are two radiosonde balloons that get launched every day from Kearny Mesa I was told by the NOAA folks.
13 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Canyon Peak

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I like that route....there are 11 guzzlers I believe in that whole Pinyon/Vallecito Mtn range area, I have not been to all of them...yet,
Your radiosonde looks fairly complete, if you are near Rancho Bernardo you can drop it off in person to the NOAA office, that is what I have done a few times in the past and will need to again with the growing collection in my garage.
14 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Canyon Peak

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Buford wrote:
Cool. Looks like you found a NOAA balloon. I’ve never found one.

Have the Monday Maniacs been there? I don’t know if a peak counts unless their signature is in the register smile
edited by Buford on 2/3/2019



That was my first balloon! I wonder how many they lose out there. I'm going to mail it back on Monday.

Monday Maniacs have not been there yet. There was no register or benchmark. There were 4 claimed ascents in peakbagger: John Strauch, Wayne Wilkinson, Richard Carey, and Don Raether.
14 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Canyon Peak

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Cool. Looks like you found a NOAA balloon. I’ve never found one.

Have the Monday Maniacs been there? I don’t know if a peak counts unless their signature is in the register smile
edited by Buford on 2/3/2019
14 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph?

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Rocko1 wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
I don't recall any boulder scrambling, just route finding. At some point once you ascend the route from Pictograph you run into the normal pinyon mtn rd trail and you can just follow that. I suppose there could be some slight boulder scrambling, I just don't remember anything significant. Someone else on the forum may have more recent memories so please chime in.



https://caltopo.com/m/7TVE Here it the proposed route. I had thought here was some scrambling going up this canyon. I could have been mistaken.
edited by Rocko1 on 2/3/2019


The link is the route I’ve done each time. There is probably some scrambling, it just wasn’t enough to be notable or memorable for me. That is why your mileage may vary. Sometimes there is a ducked route out of the canyon to meetup with the use trail, sometimes you travel high enough up Smugglers Canyon until you hit the other use trail.

I agree with Rockhopper.
14 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Canyon Peak

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Inspiration for this hike came from Rocko1's report on Bighorn-Nolina and Darren' maps. Thanks!

Bighorn Canyon Peak is an unofficial peak (3567') between Bighorn Canyon and Nolina Wash in Anza-Borrego. With prominence of 707', it deserves an official name. I pulled off the dirt road near the start of the ridge and began dodging cactus. At the top of the first bump is a plateau where I was surprised to find a guzzler with several tanks. After checking it out, I scrambled up a class 2 slope filled with boulders. Above the boulder slope, I found a radiosonde device. These are NOAA weather balloons. It said "harmless weather device" and a return envelope was attached. The rest of the ridge was gentle, though agave was thick. I didn't want to backtrack too much so I started down the south ridge. I was prepared to climb back out if I cliffed out. It was very steep but was not technical. My blood starting pumping when I reached a cliff about 400' below the summit. However, I was able to drop down a steep gully into Nolina Wash. I think there was also a safe descent path on the other side to Bighorn Canyon. The skull and bone piles described by Rocko1 were all pretty much the same, except the deer carcass had been moved. Super fun hike! I plan to go back for another unofficial peak on the other side of Nolina in a month or so. Sorry I'm too lazy to post all my photos (can be found on my blog).





Unexpected guzzler tanks above the first bump on the ridge







Summit





14 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph?

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Fun hike from the west with great views on a clear day. Follow the drainage and work your way up the shoulder toward the peak. Best to go right now after a storm passes through. I was lucky and picked up water from snow patches on the way up. Post a report and photos. Cheers.
14 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph?

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dsefcik wrote:
I don't recall any boulder scrambling, just route finding. At some point once you ascend the route from Pictograph you run into the normal pinyon mtn rd trail and you can just follow that. I suppose there could be some slight boulder scrambling, I just don't remember anything significant. Someone else on the forum may have more recent memories so please chime in.



https://caltopo.com/m/7TVE Here it the proposed route. I had thought here was some scrambling going up this canyon. I could have been mistaken.
edited by Rocko1 on 2/3/2019
14 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph?

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Buford wrote:
I don’t remember much if any scrambling. Done that route a couple times, one of the few peaks I’ve repeated.

The canyon portion of the hike was the only place that some might call scrambling. From what I remember, there is usually a bypass up the canyon wall one way or another. It can get sketchy when snow covered and icy.


YMMV
edited by Buford on 2/2/2019



Thanks for the info. The usual route starts off with a nice scramble and I had read this route had some bouldering up the canyon. More curious than anything.
15 days ago
Topic:
The "Original" LA Rams

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Good to see the better rams get some attention.
15 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph?

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I don’t remember much if any scrambling. Done that route a couple times, one of the few peaks I’ve repeated.

The canyon portion of the hike was the only place that some might call scrambling. From what I remember, there is usually a bypass up the canyon wall one way or another. It can get sketchy when snow covered and icy.


YMMV
edited by Buford on 2/2/2019
15 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph?

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I don't recall any boulder scrambling, just route finding. At some point once you ascend the route from Pictograph you run into the normal pinyon mtn rd trail and you can just follow that. I suppose there could be some slight boulder scrambling, I just don't remember anything significant. Someone else on the forum may have more recent memories so please chime in.
15 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph?

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Can someone tell me how much boulder scrambling there is going up this route? I have been a few time the normal route from Pinyon Mountain Rd. and want to try this route from the west.
16 days ago
Topic:
The "Original" LA Rams

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Nice find Tom.
Great to bring awareness about their fragile ecosystem to the general public.

Seems development has just run rampant upset



tommy750 wrote:
Found this interesting article about the local team playing in Sunday's Super Bowl and though you might enjoy it:

https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-ram-facts-super-bowl-20190131-story.html
16 days ago
Topic:
The "Original" LA Rams

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Great article. Thanks for sharing.
17 days ago
Topic:
The "Original" LA Rams

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Found this interesting article about the local team playing in Sunday's Super Bowl and though you might enjoy it:

" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-ram-facts-super-bowl-20190131-story.html
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17 days ago
Topic:
The "Original" LA Rams

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Found this interesting article about the local team playing in Sunday's Super Bowl and though you might enjoy it:

https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-ram-facts-super-bowl-20190131-story.html
18 days ago
Topic:
Picasa Depreciation and Google Photos

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It has been fun setting this up again and it actually works much better than the old integration so I really shouldn't complain. smile

tekewin wrote:
Yeah, great site! I am always picking up new info and new places to go. I would expect with all the rain we are getting, it should be a great spring bloom.

APIs and services from most providers evolve for whatever reasons and unfortunately require ongoing maintenance. I had to move all my stuff out of photobucket when they changed the terms of service. Google photos has good integration with their free blogger service, but it is not as sophisticated as wordpress.
19 days ago
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Picasa Depreciation and Google Photos

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Yeah, great site! I am always picking up new info and new places to go. I would expect with all the rain we are getting, it should be a great spring bloom.

APIs and services from most providers evolve for whatever reasons and unfortunately require ongoing maintenance. I had to move all my stuff out of photobucket when they changed the terms of service. Google photos has good integration with their free blogger service, but it is not as sophisticated as wordpress.
19 days ago
Topic:
Domelands/badlands backpack tomorrow

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Sorry you didn't get any responses to your post. Did you end up making the trip?

Have hiked the Domelands once and it pretty much blew me away.
The fossils out there are amazing.
It eventually got too hot and we cut our hike short, but you could easily spend days out there.


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Planning on doing Domeland/carrizo badlands tomorrow with my son and nephew.

We have done this hike a few times and have good familiarity with the wind caves, many of the various fossils (including the 3 giant urchin like shells) and the slot canyon into the badlands.

We plan to stay in the Penthouse Cave if it is available.

I am interested in other interesting things to do in the area. I have heard there is a giant chock rock in the area that is worth seeing.

Does anyone know where the chock rock is or have other recommendations for us to check out?
19 days ago
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Picasa Depreciation and Google Photos

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Yeah it is pretty crazy.
You guys get all the credit. Some really good information has been shared.
Looking forward to seeing more users this spring hopefully.
Rumor has it we may be in for another good flower season which usually brings people to the site
https://www.abdnha.org/pages/03flora/reports/current.htm


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I second that Bob, thanks for putting all the work into the best little forum about Anza Borrego out there.
19 days ago
Topic:
Picasa Depreciation and Google Photos

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I second that Bob, thanks for putting all the work into the best little forum about Anza Borrego out there.
19 days ago
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Picasa Depreciation and Google Photos

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Toast
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Thanks for that extra effort and work Bob..! Thumbs Up
20 days ago
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Thanks for that extra effort and work Bob..! Thumbs Up
20 days ago
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Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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Rocko1 wrote:
tekewin wrote:

I bought a case of MREs for an emergency a few years ago and stored them in my daughters closet, but she ate them all. She said they weren't bad.
Thanks. I have had other MRE's that were not bad at all-this one was just so sugary and saucy I can't see how it's a main dish. Like a bottle of BBQ sauce, add more sugar and a few pieces of meat.
Heard from an insider (marine) that when you have to eat those things for 30 days straight, they all suck.
20 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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tommy750 wrote:
Was out last year above Pinyon Wash about two miles east of Blue Spring and found a cache of four sheep remains, one still fairly pungent. Definitely a favorite area for the kitties.



If I was a cat seems like a perfect ambush site.
20 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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Was out last year above Pinyon Wash about two miles east of Blue Spring and found a cache of four sheep remains, one still fairly pungent. Definitely a favorite area for the kitties.
20 days ago
Topic:
Picasa Depreciation and Google Photos

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So Google finally decided to depreciate the Picasa API which was the way I was pulling pictures into my AB BLOG site.upset
Suddenly I was getting 404 errors but at the same time I had really let the site kind of fall by the wayside as family stuff had come up etc.

Did some research on their developers’ site and they now require you to use Google photos and the Google Photos Library API which requires you to go through a few more hoops to get it to work.
https://developers.google.com/picasa-web/docs/3.0/deprecation

Anyway, home sick today so played around with it and got it to work.
I guess they put a cap on using the API to 10,000 requests per project per day which I don’t think is an issue.wink
You can see here (at bottom of post) how it looks pulling a Google Photo Gallery into Word Press.
http://www.anzaborrego.net/2019/01/25/super-moon-and-super-bloom/

Looking at some of my old pictures has really motivated me to get back out into the AB desert a bit more which is my goal this spring.

Take care all and a special thanks to the regulars who keep this forum going,
Bob
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20 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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Those are amazing photos Daren
Good Posting
dsefcik wrote:
DHeuschele wrote:
I once experienced the trestle via small plane. It was a special plane that made the experience even better (a Grumman that the canopy pulled back exposing the cockpit to the elements) but any plane would do. The view of the trestle could only be beat by hiking to the trestle; the view from the start of the bend is amazing.
I was lucky enough to see it from a helicopter once, pretty cool...





22 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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tekewin wrote:
Those are some nice bones! A great find. I am normally summit focused, but this trip would be worth it for bone hunting. That peak in between the canyons (3567') was dubbed Bighorn Canyon Peak by Richard Carey, so there's that.
Great set of prints, too. Lions and bones often go together.

I bought a case of MREs for an emergency a few years ago and stored them in my daughters closet, but she ate them all. She said they weren't bad.



Thanks. I have had other MRE's that were not bad at all-this one was just so sugary and saucy I can't see how it's a main dish. Like a bottle of BBQ sauce, add more sugar and a few pieces of meat.

Certainly could spend more time exploring the area. I would love to make it to Pinyon Mt Rd from here some day going south.
22 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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Those are some nice bones! A great find. I am normally summit focused, but this trip would be worth it for bone hunting. That peak in between the canyons (3567') was dubbed Bighorn Canyon Peak by Richard Carey, so there's that.
Great set of prints, too. Lions and bones often go together.

I bought a case of MREs for an emergency a few years ago and stored them in my daughters closet, but she ate them all. She said they weren't bad.
22 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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ziphius wrote:
Rocko, saw that you got some of your lion tracks up on iNaturalist, thanks, nice job. Your sighting from this trip currently is shown as two separate observations on iNaturalist. If these were from the same cat, it's customary to report it as a single observation. You can add multiple photos to an observation once created, and then delete any duplicate observations. Also, you were lucky enough to see other lion tracks in Cuyamaca and some folks are ready to provide a research grade status, but they need to know what the scale was: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/19864100 FYI, I go by jim_carretta on iNaturalist, welcome aboard.

ziphius-Thanks for the pointers-I will get the hang of it! wink
23 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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Rocko, saw that you got some of your lion tracks up on iNaturalist, thanks, nice job. Your sighting from this trip currently is shown as two separate observations on iNaturalist. If these were from the same cat, it's customary to report it as a single observation. You can add multiple photos to an observation once created, and then delete any duplicate observations. Also, you were lucky enough to see other lion tracks in Cuyamaca and some folks are ready to provide a research grade status, but they need to know what the scale was: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/19864100 FYI, I go by jim_carretta on iNaturalist, welcome aboard.
23 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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DHeuschele wrote:
I once experienced the trestle via small plane. It was a special plane that made the experience even better (a Grumman that the canopy pulled back exposing the cockpit to the elements) but any plane would do. The view of the trestle could only be beat by hiking to the trestle; the view from the start of the bend is amazing.
I was lucky enough to see it from a helicopter once, pretty cool...





23 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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Here is the view from Sacatone

https://www.darensefcik.com/Photography/Panoramas/i-zkHD7Xf/A

The trestle is hidden around the corner on the left. I am not thinking there is an easy access to a view of the trestle, you could possibly drive in to Redondo Flat but I can't remember if the trestle is visible, it is sorta tucked back in the corner.

Zoom around in Google Earth, you may find a view point.
23 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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I think it is cool you want to experience the view of the trestle with your Dad. My Dad's knees have been going for the last few years. It has gotten so bad that this year he declines my invites to the basketball games due to the stairs at Viejas Arena. My Dad turns 77 in a few months. He has started consultations for knee replacements.

I once experienced the trestle via small plane. It was a special plane that made the experience even better (a Grumman that the canopy pulled back exposing the cockpit to the elements) but any plane would do. The view of the trestle could only be beat by hiking to the trestle; the view from the start of the bend is amazing.

Good luck on experiencing this with your Dad.
23 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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I don't remember for certain. I want to say yes, but really hard to see because it is tucked into the canyon. You can definitely see the trestle from some of the benchmarks on the McCain side, but those are too much of a hike from the sounds of it.

I am more certain, but not 100%, you can see the smaller trestles from McCain. I would try the Sacotone overlook first. Even if you can't see it form there, the view is great across to the tracks. There is also a steep 4wd road before the overlook that might give a better view.

Another overlook before Cottonwood camp on the right as you drive out might have a view. I can't remember the name of the second overlook.

I too remember seeing the trestle for the first time at the model railroad museum as a kid. Good times.
23 days ago
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

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My father introed me to Goat Canyon Trestle many years ago when I was a kids at the model railroad museum. Since then I've been there numerous times. But my father has not. Into his 70's and newly replaced knee, I'd like to give him a view of Goat Canyon trestle and was wondering if any one knew if you could see if anywhere form McCain area? He can't really hike much at all. Hoping for a drive up and walk a little ways and see it with Binoculars or something to the effect.
any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Larry
edited by sddarkman619 on 1/25/2019
23 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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ziphius wrote:
Rocko1, in a pinch, a dollar bill or credit card makes a good ruler too!



Thanks, that's a good idea. I just ordered a cloth tape measure for future trips. Going to cut it to 12" or so and attach it to the pack. I always mean to bring a quarter but I keep forgetting.
23 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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Rocko1, in a pinch, a dollar bill or credit card makes a good ruler too!
23 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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ziphius wrote:
Really nice trip report Rocko1. If that cap is the standard 1.25 diameter, then you have mountain lion tracks for sure. If you have an account on iNaturalist (or are interested) post those tracks, they will no doubt get 'Research Grade' status. It's an area of the county that mountain lion data is sorely-lacking. Glad your wife enjoyed the trip. - Jim



Yes, it's standard Smart Water bottle cap. I need to bring small ruler out for track pictures as I see quite a bit of different tracks. I will check out iNaturalist-i'd love to post these and other tracks I have seen.
23 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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Great trip. Thanks for sharing. My wife's camping days are pretty much done ,unless it is near a hot spring. ;-o
23 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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Great picks. Love the rain! Getting out soon.
Cheers!
25 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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Really nice trip report Rocko1. If that cap is the standard 1.25 diameter, then you have mountain lion tracks for sure. If you have an account on iNaturalist (or are interested) post those tracks, they will no doubt get 'Research Grade' status. It's an area of the county that mountain lion data is sorely-lacking. Glad your wife enjoyed the trip. - Jim
26 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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@surfponto I was in that area the weekend before. It was starting to look promising.

The usual flower fields near Henderson and Coyote were devoid of flowers for now.
26 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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dsefcik wrote:
Glad that route worked out for you...millions of other choices for the next trip. Save the coyote brown spoons from the MRE, I'll take them..!!

It did. Thanks again. I have the spoons as well as some others-my brother loves these things. They are yours if you want them.
26 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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Glad that route worked out for you...millions of other choices for the next trip. Save the coyote brown spoons from the MRE, I'll take them..!!
26 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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Nice...I need to get out there!
26 days ago
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Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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tommy750 wrote:
So, did your wife like it?? Mine is happy to do the day hike/car camp thing but can't convince her (yet?) for an overnight backpack outing. Nice trip report.



She did. She liked the adventure part of it. I thought she would struggle with getting out of Bighorn and into Nolina as you are scrambling up a decent incline with a pack but she did great. I offered many times to take the pack but she didn't need any help. She was a bit uneasy about the bones while we were near the guzzler, did not want to hang out too long there. Other than wishing for a more comfortable sleeping pad-used the Klymit Static V-and her feet getting cold at night-she enjoyed it.

If you wanted to bridge the gap I suggest Nolina canyon. You can park, hike up the road/wash for about 2 miles and there are many nice flat spots for camping right inside the beginning of the canyon. You can go back as far as you want but many opportunities early on-Bighorn not so much-much more rugged. Get back to the car within 40 minutes or so.
26 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

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So, did your wife like it?? Mine is happy to do the day hike/car camp thing but can't convince her (yet?) for an overnight backpack outing. Nice trip report.
26 days ago
Topic:
Winter 2019 Flowers

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surfponto
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Topic: Winter 2019 Flowers
We were out Sunday night for the super-moon.
Found some flowers when we were heading up S2 near Inner Pasture.
Looks like it could be a good bloom this year.





edited by surfponto on 1/22/2019
26 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

Rocko1
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surfponto wrote:
Looks like a beautiful area.
How were the nighttime temperatures?



Should have posted that, sorry. Daytime around 70F, at night got to low 40's. Absolutely no wind, dead calm and full moon. I tried to take some pictures at midnight to show illumination but my phones camera doesn't do well in low light. Could have walked out without lamps if you had too, very bright.
26 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

surfponto
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surfponto
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Topic: Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop
Looks like a beautiful area.
How were the nighttime temperatures?




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